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November 08, 2009

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Interesting question, Jussi.

Is this yet another route Gibbard might take?

(e) He could say that any complete hyper-plan would say something about what course(s) of action to take in the contingency of not being sure exactly what circumstances one is facing.

Well, I was thinking about that and I'm not sure. That's why I brought up the bit about higher-order vagueness quickly. Say that in the beach case, I plan to stay at home if I cannot determine if it's warm or not warm. The concept of being in that state too will have to be recognitional concept - so I have to be able to recognise whether I am in it or not. And, usually, sure enough, I will be.

However, that concept too will be a vague one. There will also be borderline cases in which I will not be able determine whether or not I am able to determine if it's warm or not warm. This is because there are not supposed to be completely luminous psychological states either. Of course, I can plan for these contingencies too but then we get vagueness again one level up. So, it seems like just as long as I make the plans in recognitional concepts, I'll never get rid of the indeterminacy.

Maybe the hyperplanner will need something more detailed that the "warm/not warm" distinction for the plan to work. It would be much easier to follow a hyperplan of the sort you mention with clearer parameters: "I will go to the beach if it is 72 degrees Farenheit or above, and I will go to the movies if it is 71 degrees Farenheit or below" would be considerably less vague. I'm not sure if those two options fit the bill of 'recognitional concepts' pace Gibbard, and it seems overly detailed, but it would prevent the vagueness worry.

My inclination, from your options, is that Gibbard could go with b) and scrap (or massively alter) the idea of recognitional concepts.

Option d) would seem to turn Gibbard into some kind of intutionist, which would be weird but not implausible.

It's true that with accurate recognitional concepts you could get rid of a lot of the indeterminacy. I think that, in order to get fully decided plans for all contingencies, you'd need to get rid of all of it. I doesn't seem like temperature in degrees is a recognitional concept. We cannot directly recognise how many degrees is. But, of course, we can use measuring instruments and we could plan how to act given what the measuring devices say. You could have a plan - if the thermometer (or many of them) shows 72 or more, then beach, if it shows anything less, then cinema.

This would get us back to recognitional concepts. However, it given the vagueness of the concept thermometer showing 72, I'm not sure this would give us a plan for all contingencies. What if the thermometer is flickering between 72 and less, and so on.

Also, I'm worried that even the definition of the scientific concept it being 72 degrees is going to leave us with some borderline cases no matter how you defined them. So, even if we were not using recognitional concepts but rather concepts that can outstrip our recognitional abilities, it's not clear that we even then would get rid of all indeterminacy in plans.

I'm also starting to be worried about something about b) and d). Not sure how to put this. But, they both lead to the idea that the hyperplans are couched in different concepts from ours. Then I start to worry that his account of our normative thoughts would be an account given in terms of our attitudes of disagreeing with planners whose plans are couched in concepts very different from anything like our concepts. But, how could we have the attitudes of disagreeing or ruling out plans that are couched in concepts inaccessible to us? I know this is a mere rhetorical question to which there might be an answer.

Jussi,

I'm not totally convinced by your reply to Sven. Is the second-order vagueness really going to be a problem? Can't I just have a plan about what to do if I feel any vagueness at all? I say I'll go if it's warm. If I am certain it is warm, I'll go. If I am uncertain whether it is warm, I'll go, too. What if I'm uncertain whether or not I'm really uncertain that it's warm? Heck, I'll go then, too! There is a regress, but it doesn't seem like a troubling one. I plan to φ if I feel any uncertainty at any level.

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