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June 16, 2004

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Do you mean for your E, or do you think that your E, entails motivational internalism (perhaps not an easy question -- if there are 5 different kinds of expressivism, there are at least that many kinds of internalism)?

In your E, does the sincerity condition require that the speaker actually be in the relevant conative state of mind at the time he or she is uttering the sentence?

Hi Kyle. Although I think there are at least five different kinds of expressivism, what is common to them all--indeed, what makes them expressivists as I see it--is that all hold that (E) is true.

Does (E) entail motivational internalism? Of course this will depend, in part, on what is meant by 'motivational internalism'. As I see it, motivational internalism is the following:

(MI): If a speaker properly, literally, and sincerely utters an ethical sentence (like (1)), then the speaker is motivated to some extent to promote or avoid the act referred to in the sentence.

So, according to (MI), if a speaker properly, literally, and sincerely utters (1), then the speaker is motivated to some extent to avoid intentionally flying airplanes into tall buildings.

So, (E) entails (MI) only on the following two assumptions: (i) that having a pro- or con-attitude toward an act A is sufficient for being motivated to some extent to promote or avoid A respectively, and (ii) the speaker properly and literally uttering an ethical sentence like (1) is also uttering the sentence sincerely. The reason is that a literal utterance requires the speaker to be performing all (and only) the direct illocutionary acts appropriate for a sentence given its meaning in a language, and according to (E), such a direct illocutionary act requires for its sincerity some kind of pro- or con-attitude.

The very interesting question you are picking up on (and that I avoided answering!) is: just what is sincerity? That is, what does it mean to utter a sentence sincerely? I hope to have a post up over the next week or so answering this question as well.

About your second question, the sincerity condition only requires the speaker to be in the relevant conative state of mind if he or she is uttering the sentence sincerely. It is certainly possible for us to utter an ethical sentence properly, literally, yet insincerely. In such a case, we would be performing either a direct expressive or direct directive illocutionary act, even though we lack the relevant conative state.

Thanks for the comment.

Dan,

No, no. Thank YOU.

"About your second question, the sincerity condition only requires the speaker to be in the relevant conative state of mind if he or she is uttering the sentence sincerely."

Richard Joyce has examples in a paper in Analysis like this:

As my wife and I rush out of my department’s end-of-year party because we’ve received an emergency phone call from our baby sitter, I think to call out “Thanks!” At the time I felt no gratitude; my mind was on the crisis waiting for us at home. My expression of gratitude wasn’t exactly heartfelt. But I doubt that it would be ordinarily deemed insincere.

Say instead that before the phone call we had all been talking about the torture at Abu Ghraib. As we’re rushing out the door I’m asked, “What do you think, Kyle?” Not stopping I call out “It’s contemptible! Bye! Thanks!” Again, my mind was elsewhere. I have expressed contempt. Sincerely? I think so because even if I haven't expressed it as forcefully as I might in other circumstances, I do have contempt for the torture. I doubt that the ordinary conception of sincerity requires that at the moment I utter the judgment and express the affective state, I must be in that state of mind.

Perhaps what these cases suggest that there are three types of engagement a person can have with respect to his properly and literally uttering an ethical sentence like (1): 1. He (merely? formally? merely formally?) expresses the relevant con-attitude towards the behavior 2. He has the relevant con-attitude towards the behavior 3. He is actually in that conative state of mind. Although all three of these are usually true when a person PL-utters an ethical sentence, it seems to me that 2. is sufficient to satisfy the sincerity condition. Also, going back to the question of (MI), perhaps the connection moral judgments have to motivation will depend on which of these are true about the person uttering the sentence. But I'm not sure since I think that 1. is sufficient to have made a moral judgment.

Hi Kyle. I think you are right about two, and possibly three, of your points. First, I was not distinguishing, as perhaps I should have been, between *having* an attitude and being *in the grip* of that attitude. Second, I agree with you that having an attitude that one expressing in properly and literally uttering an ethical sentence is sufficient for the utterance to count as sincere. The third point—that 1. is sufficient to have made a moral judgment—will depend, I think, on whether the moral judgment is in the form of discourse or a moral thought. I think that 1. is sufficient to have made a moral judgment (though not a sincere one) in the form of discourse, but is not sufficient to have made a moral judgment in the form of a moral thought—actually having the attitude is also necessary for thought to count as moral thought.

Thanks again for the comments and for setting me straight on a few things.

We don't disagree, but we had only been talking about PL-uttering ethical sentences like (1), illocutionary acts.

Anyway, if 1. is sufficient to have made a moral judgment, then of course what people call motivational judgment internalism -- that moral judgment necessarily implicates motivation -- is false. The way you characterized (MI) above, though, is different since it included the sincerity condition.

Hi Kyle. Thanks again for the comments. Yes, I know we were talking only about moral judgments in the form of discourse. I just wanted to make a broader point in the course of answering your question. Also, you are of course correct that, according to what I've said, moral judgments (in the form of discourse) do not necessarily imply motivation. (That is why I said that they do only if the PL-utterance is sincere.) I think, however, that when it comes to talking about moral judgments in the form of discourse, then what people call "motivational judgment internalism" is intended to refer to *sincere* moral utterances (as opposed to utterances containing "inverted comma" uses of moral terms). That is why (MI) includes the notion of sincerity.

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